Created and compiled by Ger Potze - January 1998.
last modified: August 12, 2000
On this page I will list only every bootleg & live recording I own myself on records or tapes, divided into four sections:
When you have anything to offer I do not have yet (see also my wanted list), please send me a message, and I'm sure it's possible to work out a trade somehow. Please note, I do not sell any of the things listed on this page.
- The first section of this page includes my privately produced "Heartless & Soulless"
"Heart & Soul" Outtakes Collection on 3 CD-R's. See also my "Heart & Soul" exclusions page!- The second section of this page contains my list of audio recordings (bootlegs and live tapes).
- The third section of this page includes video recordings.
- The fourth section is a list of recordings I'm searching for myself,
so if anyone can help me out, anyhow, please send me a message.Beware! When you're interested in trading Joy Division tapes, please check out the
information on a bad trader!, included at the end of this page.For more information on Joy Division bootlegs and live tapes I have some links worth checking out!
Disc 2
Disc 3
Tracks 1- 5: Warsaw Demo session, Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, July 18, 1977 Tracks 6- 7: 1st "Transmission" session, Central Sound Studios, Manchester, mid July 1979 Track 8 : Piccadilly Radio session, Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, June 4, 1979 Tracks 9-11: 1st John Peel session, BBC Studios, Maida Vale, London, January 31, 1979 Tracks 12-13: 2nd John Peel session, BBC Studios, Maida Vale, London, November 26, 1979 Track 14 : additional production and remix by Don Gehman Track 15 : live at The Factory 1, Hulme, Manchester, July 13, 1979 Track 16 : live Granada "What's On" TV appearance, broadcast July 20, 1979 Track 17 : live at the Electric Circus, Manchester, October 2, 1977 Tracks 18-19: "Something Else" TV, BBC Studios, September 15, 1979 Track 20 : 1st "LWTUA" session, Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, January 8, 1980 Tracks 21-28: RCA unreleased album session, Arrow Studios, Manchester, May 3-4, 1978 Track 29 : live "Granada Reports" TV, Granada Studio 2, Manchester, September 20, 1978 Track 30 : live at the High Hall, Birmingham University, May 2, 1980 - "Still" 2LP outtake Track 31 : certain copies of the "Atmosphere" 12" single had this version on the flipside! Tracks 33-35: recorded live at the Bowdon Vale Youth Club, March 14, 1979 Track 36 : recorded live at the Plan K, Brussels, Belgium, October 16, 1979 Tracks 37-41: recorded live at The Apollo, Manchester, October 27, 1979 Tracks 42-46: recorded live at The Apollo, Manchester, October 28, 1979 Tracks 47-50: recorded live at De Effenaar, Eindhoven, Holland, January 18, 1980 Tracks 36-37, 39-50 taken from the "Here Are The Young Men" video (1982) Tracks 33-35, 38, and 51 taken from the unreleased "Substance 1978-1988" video (1988) Compiled, edited, and remastered by Ger Potze. Thanks to Brian for the title. Thanks to Harrie ter Rele for making some artwork for this set!
Tracks 1-4 recorded during the "1st Transmission" session at Central Studios, Manchester, mid July 1979.
Tracks 5-9 recorded from the Piccadilly Radio session at Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, June 4, 1979.
Bootleg LP (ATMOS 104), released 1982.
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Tracks 1-5 recorded at Bains-Douches, Paris, December 18, 1979 (taken from the live radio broadcast).
Tracks 6-12 recorded at Moonlight Club, London, April 2, 1980 (the same gig "Sister Ray" on the
double album "Still" was taken from).
German bootleg LP (FACT 600, reissued as JD 1/2), released March 1984.
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Tracks 1-17 recorded live at Paradiso, Amsterdam, January 11, 1980 (complete show).
Tracks 18-20 recorded live at The Factory 1, Hulme, Manchester, July 13, 1979
(recording venue misprinted as live at the Russell Club).
This CD contains the complete Paradiso gig, one of the most booted Joy Division gigs.
The sound quality is very good.
Italian bootleg CD (Interzone IZ90102), released 1990.
Personal source: CD
Tracks 1-16 recorded live at De Effenaar, Eindhoven, January 18, 1980.
Tracks 17-19 recorded live at The Factory 1, Hulme, Manchester, July 13, 1979
(recording venue misprinted as live at the Russell Club).
This CD contains the complete Eindhoven gig, and the sound quality is very good.
Italian bootleg CD (Interzone IZ90101), released 1990.
Personal source: CD
Tracks 1-15 recorded live at Paradiso, Amsterdam, January 11, 1980.
Tracks 16-17 from the "Licht Und Blindheit" 7" single 1980.
Tracks 18-20, and 23-25 from the "Komakino" flexi 7" single 1980.
Tracks 21-22 from "A Factory Sample" 1978.
This bootleg is one of the most famous and first Joy Division bootlegs around, although the sound quality is poor.
German bootleg 2LP-set (Democrazy Records DR003-4), released May 1981.
Personal source: 2LP -> TAPE
Tracks 1-10 recorded live at Malvern Winter Gardens, April 5, 1980.
Tracks 11-13 recorded live at Eric's, Liverpool, August 11, 1979
(misprinted on sleeve as November 8).
Track 10 was an encore jam with support band Section 25, and track 11 is also said to be a Section 25 song.
German and Italian bootleg LP (JD I/II), released September 1984 (reissue of the "Live 1979/1980" bootleg in mono).
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Tracks 1-10 recorded live at The Factory 1, Hulme, Manchester, July 13, 1979 (the actual
recording venue for this bootleg, although they did play a concert at the Russell Club on
June 13th).
Tracks 11-13 recorded from the 2nd New Order Peel Session, recorded and broadcast June 1, 1982.
Bootleg LP (Hawkeye SCX5443), released 1983.
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Tracks 1-4 are from the Warsaw Demo session July 18, 1977.
Tracks 5-8 are from the An Ideal For Living EP.
Track 9 is from the Short Circuit compilation.
Track 10 is from A Factory Sample (FAC2).
Tracks 11-12 are from the Earcom 2: Contradiction EP.
Tracks 13-15 are from the Komakino-flexi (FAC 28).
Tracks 16-17 are outtakes from the Unknown Pleasures session in April 1979.
German bootleg LP (Hawkeye A/B HE005), released July 1984.
Personal source: LP -> Tape -> TAPE
Tracks 1-2 recorded live at the Paradiso, Amsterdam, January 11, 1980
(taken from the "Solitary Demands" bootleg EP).
Track 3 recorded at the soundcheck at Town Hall, High Wycombe, February 20, 1980
(taken from the "Out Of Balance, Out Of Tune" bootleg EP).
Tracks 4-5 outtakes / different mixes from Unknown Pleasures
(taken from the "Retrospective - Part I" bootleg LP.
Tracks 6-7 recorded at "Something Else" BBC2 TV show, September 15, 1979
(taken from the "BBC 1 EP" bootleg 7").
Tracks 8-11 recorded live at De Effenaar, Eindhoven, January 18, 1980
(taken from the "Effenaar" bootleg LP.
Tracks 12-14 recorded live at the Rainbow Theatre, London, November 10, 1979
(probably taken from the "Shadowplay" bootleg LP).
Note: The above tracklisting is the exact one as to be heard on the record. The sleeve of this release lists track 12 as "Wilderness" and track 13 as "24 Hours", and also includes a track 15 "You're No Good For Me" taken from the Warsaw Demo session July 18, 1977, but this is not on record!
Bootleg LP (Stick And Roll Records), released 1987.
Personal source: LP -> TAPE (tracks 12-14, 1-3, 6-7)
Recorded live at The Warehouse, Preston, February 28, 1980 (misprinted on sleeve as March 29).
Italian bootleg CD (Great Dane Records), released 1990 (excellent sound quality).
Personal sources: CD -> TAPE (tracks 4, and 6 only) CD -> Tape -> TAPE (complete CD)
Tracks 1-2 taken from "A Factory Sample" (FAC2).
Track 3 taken from "Licht Und Blindheit" (Sordide Sentimental).
Track 4 taken from the first Peel session.
Tracks 5-6 taken from the second Peel session.
Tracks 7-12 recorded live at Ajanta Theatre, Derby, April 19, 1980.
Swedish Bootleg LP (Fabrique Disques FAB XXXVIII), released 1981.
Personal source: LP -> ? -> Tape -> TAPE (tracks 6-12 only)
Tracks 1-10 recorded live at The Warehouse, Preston, February 28, 1980.
Tracks 11-13 recorded live at Ajanta Theatre, Derby, April 19, 1980.
Track 14 recorded live at University of London, February 8, 1980.
Bootleg LP (Hawkeye Hawk 016), released July 1985 (earlier on Fabrique Disques).
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Recorded live at the Nashville Rooms, London, September 22, 1979 (misprinted on sleeve as September 9).
Bootleg LP (SK 0038), released August 1984 (also on MIW 38, release date unknown).
Personal source: LP -> Tape -> TAPE
Recorded live at the Electric Ballroom, London, October 26, 1979.
German bootleg LP (Three A/B), released January 1984 (released in Australia as "Glass Is...").
Personal source: LP -> TAPE
Recorded at Arrow Studios, Manchester, May 3-4, 1978 (unreleased RCA demo).
German bootleg LP (RZM Productions Ltd. RZM200), released 1981.
German bootleg CD (RZM JD01), released 1989.
Personal source: CDNote: On the LP track 1 is titled as "All Of This For You", and on the CD as "The Drawback". The CD contains the bonus track "As You Said" (a.k.a. "And Then Again" or "Incubation Pt. 2"), which was recorded at Brittania Row Studios, London, March 1980.
The first bootleg LP came with a (poor sound quality) bonus 7" single:
The CD version of this album is excellent (some of the LP versions were too fast), and a must-have for every Joy Division collector. It's also released in 1994 as a semi-legal CD on Movieplay Gold (MPG74034) containing tracks 1-12, and the complete Warsaw Demo from July 18, 1977 (see below).
Recorded as Warsaw at Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, July 18, 1977.
This bootleg single (7" and CD-single, Stampa Alternativa SCONC016)
came with the Italian book "Dal Cuore Della Città" ("From The Centre Of The City").
ISBN 88-7226-026-4 (1990). The 7" single has to be played at 33 r.p.m.
Personal source: 7" single
Tracks 1-11 recorded at Arrow Studios, Manchester, May 3-4, 1978 (unreleased RCA demo).
Track 12 recorded at Brittania Row Studios, London, March 1980.
Tracks 13-17 recorded as Warsaw at Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham, July 18, 1977.
Semi-official CD, made in Portugal (Movieplay Gold MPG 74034), released 1994.
Personal source: CD -> CD-R
This is just a private compilation (2x60 mins. tape) of tracks not included on the "Heart And Soul" box set. These tracks were taken from various formats I have. For more information on these outtakes, take a look at my excluded page!
Tracks 1- 5: Warsaw demo, Pennine Sound Studios, 18.7.77 Track 6 : Live at the Electric Circus, 2.10.77 Tracks 7-14: Arrow Studios, 3-4.5.78 (RCA demos) Tracks 15-17: Peel Session, 31.1.79 Track 18 : Piccadilly Radio Session, 4.6.79 Track 19 : live at The Factory, Hulme, 13.7.79 Tracks 20-21: Central Sound Studios, mid.7.79 Tracks 22-23: Something Else, BBC, 15.9.79 Tracks 24-25: Peel Session, 26.11.79 Track 26 : Pennine Sound Studios, 8.1.80 Track 27 : live at The Moonlight Club, 2.4.80 Tracks 28-38: live Birmingham University, 2.5.80
This is another (well basically the same) private compilation (approx. 85 mins.) of tracks not included on the "Heart And Soul" box set, and put on CD-R's (thanks Fábio!). Again, for more information on these outtakes, take a look at my excluded page.
PICCADILLY Radio Session, 4.6.79
CENTRAL SOUND STUDIOS, mid 7.79
BIRMINGHAM UNIVERSITY, 2.5.80
PENNINE SOUND STUDIOS, 8.1.80
TV APPEARANCES
"GRANADA REPORTS", 20.9.78
"SOMETHING ELSE", 15.9.79
Tracks 1- 5: Warsaw demo, Pennine Sound Studios, 18.7.77 Track 6 : Piccadilly Radio Session, 4.6.79 Tracks 7- 8: Central Sound Studios, mid.7.79 Tracks 9-19: live Birmingham University, 2.5.80 (from the "Still" 2LP-set) Track 20 : Pennine Sound Studios, 8.1.80 Track 21 : "Granada Reports", Granada TV, Manchester, 20.9.78 Tracks 22-23: "Something Else", BBC, 15.9.79
Recording date remains unconfirmed, could also be June 1979, or July 3, 1979.
Personal source: ? -> TAPE
Live recording probably taken from the "Bowden Vale Youth Club 14-3-79", or "Death" bootleg.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
Another tape of this gig, but one of a much better sound quality - very good.
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Live recording probably taken from the "Live YMCA", "Shadowplay", or "Black Souls" bootleg.
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Audience tape excerpt. The rest of this gig can be found on the "Try To Cure Yourself (Stiff Kittens)" bootleg.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
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Live recording probably taken from the "Dante's Inferno", or "Bournemouth" bootleg.
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Live recording taken from an unknown bootleg, several bootlegs exist of this gig. Broadcast on French radio at the time, and placed on a bootleg. The above list is the complete show!
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
Taken from a more recent French FM radio broadcast. Excellent sound quality!
Personal source: FM -> ? -> Tape -> TAPE
Part 1 taken from the Dutch VARA Radio broadcast on August 6, 1985.
Part 2 taken from the Dutch VARA Radio broadcast on November 28, 1989.
The complete Paradiso gig can be found on the "Form And Substance. The Dark Side" bootleg CD.
Personal source: FM -> TAPE
Personal source: ? -> TAPE
Live recording probably taken from the "Gotterdammerung" bootleg.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
Live recording taken from an unknown bootleg, several bootlegs exist of the Eindhoven concert, most of them have been released in 1984, and one of them ("Eindhoven") is said to be (nearly) complete. The above list is the complete show!
Personal source: ? -> TAPE
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Live recording probably taken from the "Live London University" bootleg.
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Five more tracks of this gig can be found on the "Heart And Soul" boxed set.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
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Note: Ian collapsed at the end of "Insight" & was helped off stage. Hooky sang "Interzone" solo, then they all left the stage.
Personal source: ? -> TAPE
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This is a complete recording of the first track of Joy Division's last concert.
A cut version of this track appears on the "Still" album.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
Taken from Key 103 FM, Piccadilly Radio, broadcast June 9, 1990.
Personal source: ? -> Tape -> TAPE
various interviews, a.o.:
Personal sources: ? -> TAPE
1 hour half inch tape from Ikon FCL.
Originally released August 1982, reissued as IKON2 in 1988.
Track 16 is the official promo video (Australian version), the other tracks are recorded live
at Plan K in Brussels (October 16, 1979), in the Manchester Apollo (October 27 & 28, 1979) and
at De Effenaar in Eindhoven (January 18, 1980).
Personal source: original VHS PAL video (IKON 1988 rerelease)
This personal video compilation contains everything included on the never officially released Factory/Qwest US "Substance 1978-1988" (FAC 277) video compilation.
Tracks 1-3 are from the Bowdon Vale Youth Club concert, March 14, 1979, and shot in Super 8 by Malcom Whitehead, from the "A Factory Flick" 8mm film. Track 4 is the live UK TV appearance at "Granada Reports", Granada Studio 2, Manchester, September 20, 1978. Tracks 5-7 from the "Something Else" TV appearance, recorded in BBC2 Studios, broadcast live on September 15, 1979. Tracks 8-9 recorded live at the Apollo, Manchester, most probably on October 28, 1979, but unavailable on the "Here Are The Young Men" video. Track 10 is the promo video, with the original vocal version soundtrack. Track 11 is the promo video directed by Anton Corbijn. Track 12 is the slightly edited Channel 4 "Wired Joy Division Feature Fac 211" TV documentary from July 1988 (more details see below) Personal sources: various -> ? -> VHS PAL video -> VHS PAL video (all tracks)
An 18-minute Channel 4 TV documentary on the release of the "Substance" compilation (FACT250),
broadcast July 1, 1988. Includes interviews with Tony Wilson, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Paul
Morley and New Order.
Later issued in a slightly edited form for promotional purposes, and also found on the unreleased
"Substance 1978-1988" video compilation (FAC 277), which was never publically available.
Personal source: see above
Some links I recommend to check out for all known information on Joy Division bootlegs, and Joy Division live tapes are:
Everyone who has been here in the beginning of these pages, may remember I had a link here to a Joy Division tape trading page, maintained by Shaun Schmeisser. I set up a trade with him back in January/February 1998, send him two tapes, but even after several excuses and promises I didn't receive back any tape from him! Am I the only one? Anyways, be really careful if you come across his page, and want to trade! "What's the point of ripping someone off?"